Game #14 Thagrosh2 vs. Jalaam1 – A short recap.

Hello everybody!

As a continuation of playtesting my Thagrosh2 list I played against Paweł Blados – fellow player from our local meta in Warsaw, well… Paweł is from Legionowo. He plays Skorne though 😛

Paweł played Jalaam1 in the following set up:

Skorne Army – 75 / 75 points
[Theme] Imperial Warhost

[Jalaam 1] Primus Jalaam [+28]
– Agonizer [0(6)]
– Aradus Sentinel [16]
– Basilisk Krea [0(7)]
– Cyclops Raider [9]
– Cyclops Raider [9]
– Cyclops Shaman [8]
Tyrant Zaadesh [4]
– Aradus Sentinel [16]
– Basilisk Krea [0(7)]
Paingiver Beast Handlers (max) [7]
Siege Animantarax [17]
Siege Animantarax [17]

This list is basically a heavy shooting gun line. I wanted to test my Thagrosh2 against such list and I got what I wanted. I played Thagrosh2 in the same configuration as previously:

Legion Army – 75 / 75 points
[Theme] Oracles of Annihilation

[Thagrosh 2] Thagrosh, the Messiah [+25]
– Angelius [17]
– Angelius [17]
– Nephilim Protector [10]
– Neraph [12]
– Seraph [14]
– Typhon [20]
Blighted Nyss Sorceress & Hellion [0(6)]
Blighted Nyss Sorceress & Hellion [0(6)]
Spell Martyr [1]
Blighted Nyss Shepherd [1]
Blighted Nyss Shepherd [1]
The Forsaken [0(4)]
Ice Witches [7]

We played Spread the Net.

The game

The whole match has been already desribed by Paweł here and I believe that his report does justice. I don’t want to rewrite what has already been written, what I can do though, is to learn the lesson from it and draw conclusions, as this game has thought me a lot. You can find our deployment and terrain set up below, as a reference.

Deployment

Afterthoughts

It is indeed interesting to read a battle report from the other side’s perspective. There are couple of things I might have done better and I’d like to focus on that, as my point is to improve my performence.

First of all, next time I should reconsider who should begin and why. In this case, after I chose to begin, I believe I should have pressed forward more aggresively. That would put more models in danger, but thanks to that more of my models (at least those remaining models) could have had better charge targets in their range.
On the other hand though, Paweł’s list had Grievous Wounds on shooting and enough shooting power to kill or at least disable more than only one beast. I would probably Shield Guard one GW shot, and Typhon would take the second one. Loosing Typhon in 2nd round would be painful for sure. In situation like that, terrain might help a lot, but as you can see in the mentioned battle report and a photograph above, there was no LoS blocker in the middle. In retrospection I think choosing the other side of the table would be more beneficial, as I would be able to hide both Angelii in better spots on the flanks.
To be honest it would be difficult to shorten the distance between our armies anyway.

Another conclusion I would like to mention is not commiting both Hellions in the same turn. Commiting one Hellion at a time, and saving the second one for the turns to come is definitely the way to go. I regret not describing the game and drawing the conclusions earlier, as in the following game I made the same mistake 😛 Well, third time’s a charm, right?

Unfortunately, I couldn’t use my feat to move back and force my enemy to push forward, as Spread the Net is a vivid scenario and Paweł having an overwhelming shooting advantage wasn’t the one to push.

Only thanks to my opponent’s mistake I had a possibility to destroy any model. Without that, I would give my opponent another turn of shooting for free. That proved me that this list is unable to face, survive long enough, and prevail over a heavily shooting list.

The final conclusion led me to a list’s modification. I swapped Neraph, Guardian, Spell Martyr and a single Shepherd for Throne and Naga. I hope ARM 22 and 36 boxes would be able to help me surviving the gun lines and dealing with infantry even better. Additionaly Naga would surely help me dealing with DEF or ARM bonuses that neither Typhon or Angelii do fancy.

To be fair I don’t believe that’s the best answer to shooting lists I could think of, but that’s what I’m taking in addition to Anamag list for the upcoming Champions event in Poznań, this weekend. People are prepared for Anamag, and I hope this aggresive list will be able to deal with Anamag’s counters:

Legion Army – 75 / 75 points
[Theme] Oracles of Annihilation

[Thagrosh 2] Thagrosh, the Messiah [+25]
– Angelius [17]
– Angelius [17]
– Naga Nightlurker [8]
– Seraph [14]
– Typhon [20]
Blighted Nyss Shepherd [1]
Blighted Nyss Sorceress & Hellion [0(6)]
Blighted Nyss Sorceress & Hellion [0(6)]
The Forsaken [0(4)]
Ice Witches [7]
Throne of Everblight [16]

We will see how will this work. I have already tested that list against Brisbane2 in Gravediggers and I will describe that game, undecided unfortunately, soon. I’m looking forward to playtest it more this Wednesday.

Wish me luck, cheers!
Piotr

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